Reader Questions on Self-Directed IRA’s
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Only two types of investments are excluded under IRS Codes:
- Life Insurance Contracts
- Collectibles such as works of art, rugs, jewelry, etc.
What are prohibited transactions?
IRC 4975(c) (1), identifies prohibited transactions to include any direct or indirect:
- Selling, exchanging, or leasing, any property between a plan and a disqualified person. For example, your IRA cannot buy property you currently own from you.
- Lending money or other extension of credit between a plan and a disqualified person. For example, you cannot personally guarantee a loan for a real estate purchase by your IRA.
- Furnishing goods, services, or facilities between a plan and a disqualified person. For example, you cannot use personal furniture to furnish your IRAs rental property.
- Transferring or using by or for the benefit of, a disqualified person the income or assets of a plan. For example, your IRA cannot buy a vacation property you or your family intends to use.
- Dealing with income or assets of a plan by a disqualified person who is a fiduciary acting in his own interest or for his own account. For example, you should not loan money to your CPA.
- Receiving any consideration for his or her personal account by a disqualified person who is a fiduciary from any party dealing with the plan in connection with a transaction involving the income or assets of the plan. For example, you cannot pay yourself income from profits generated from your IRAs rental property.
Who are disqualified parties?
A disqualified person (IRC 4975(e) (2)) is defined as:
- The IRA owner
- The IRA owner’s spouse
- Ancestors (Mom, Dad, Grandparents)
- Lineal Descendents (daughters, sons, grandchildren)
- Spouses of Lineal Descendents (son or daughter-in-law)
- Investment advisors
- Fiduciaries - those providing services to the plan
- Any business entity i.e., LLC, Corp, Trust or Partnership in which any of the disqualified persons mentioned above has a 50% or greater interest.
Q: Can I invest in art?A: Nope, art is a “collectible” and thus explicitly excluded as an allowed investment.Q: Can my IRA purchase a 4% interest in an LLC that my son also owns a 20% ownership in?A: As long as you or your son are not drawing any salary or other income outside your capital interest you can. Your son is under the 50% ownership threshhold so it is safe, but tread lightly. You don’t want any self-dealing.Q: I own a rental house. Can I sell the rental house to my IRA?A: No. This would be considered “self-dealing”Q: Can my self-directed IRA’s LLC purchase a 50% interest in a joint-company with my wife’s IRA?A: No. Your wife would fall in the 50% threshhold of a disqualified person. The IRS would disqualify both your IRA’s and you’d suffer major tax penalties. In your described arrangement it would be easy for the both of you to control the company so as to have personal gain.Q: I own 25% of a company through my IRA. My son recently got hired through his own merits and I just found out he works for my company now. Will this cause problems?A: Yes. Since you are part owner, it would be easy for the IRS to assume that your relationship to the investment influenced the hiring decision. You should ask your son to change jobs or divest yourself from this company to protect your IRA from becoming disqualified.
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Anthony said:
Nice new site man. It’s looking good. How have you been?
September 12th, 2008 at 8:45 pm -
Rafael Rosa said:
Hey, good blog and great analysis.
I was looking over your old posts and you had some good things to say. I look forward in reading this blog from now on.Keep up the good work.
Cheers.September 15th, 2008 at 9:06 pm -
Ron Cooper said:
Can you purchase your own residence with a self direced IRA? Was thninking of paying off the house and owning it through the IRA.
September 19th, 2008 at 6:09 pm -
Dax Desai said:
@Ron - Purchasing your own residence would be considered self-dealing. In the case that you sell it to your IRA it is an obvious case and would disqualify your entire IRA. Don’t do it!
In the case of your IRA going to the market and buying a house from someone else you could potentially rent it out to someone else. That would be ok. Don’t live in it or rent it to either yourself or relatives. In other words… Don’t do it!
A great option for self-directed IRA’s is investing in multi-family properties. I have the vast majority of my clients invested in multi-family yielding anywhere from 15-18%. Invest in what you can understand. Invest in a house, apartments, or office buildings. Don’t invest in complex financial instruments that require a rocket scientist to decipher. After all the Kings of Wall Street are falling and their backs are bearing the weight of all those complex Mortgage-backed securities.
Best of luck to you and as always throw your questions my way.
September 19th, 2008 at 8:00 pm -
Dax Desai said:
@Anthony - I’ve been great. I had a period where I wasn’t blogging as much. I must admit I got burned a couple of times in this market volatility. In any case my diversification and trading strategies are positive overall and I’m learning from my missteps.
I’ve been busy adding a construction side to my business and I’ve been busy with that. If you need a house, a hotel, or an apartment complex built I’m your man. My procurement expertise is turning out to be a big plus to my clients in the form of cost savings.
September 19th, 2008 at 8:02 pm




